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| Author: | cantina [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | HUNL 2BB Strategy |
Something interesting when crunching a strategy for a 2BB stack size game, it doesn't always push/fold. For example, with: 74o, 72s, 63o, 54o, 52s it's calling some high portion of the time from the SB. |
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| Author: | Coffee4tw [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy |
That depends on what abstraction you allow it to play right? What abstraction are you using for your number crunching here? |
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| Author: | cantina [ Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy |
Same as the 6bb strat. |
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| Author: | Coffee4tw [ Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy |
Interesting. This kind of supports my theory that no action really ever dominates another action for all scenarios. If you add calling or raising a smaller (maybe even larger?) amount, then that action will likely get some percentage of play somewhere. Too many people think P/F is OBVIOUSLY better than calling with small stacks but it's really not game theoretically. It just makes life easier and obfuscates the strength of the hand. |
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| Author: | cantina [ Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy |
I guess in a fold/call/push scenario it's +EV to call sometimes and hope your opponent has crap too. |
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| Author: | proud2bBot [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy |
For the 2bb example: are the listed hands the only calling hands? If so, BB should basically raise any hand vs limps and thus we cannot fold anymore given the pot odds. This means, we should shove the hand as there we might have a tiny bit of FE which should outweight the cases where BB has 72o and checks vs our limp. |
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| Author: | cantina [ Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy |
I think so. Are you saying by this p2bb that it's a flawed strategy to call at all from the button? |
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| Author: | proud2bBot [ Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy |
Not necessarily. Given the 2bb stacks and the fact that we basically can't limp/fold, I'd find it weird that its valid to limp only the worst hands (unbalanced): villain can make easy value shoves with most hands and his worst hands can play perfectly against us as our range is small and defined. Did you run the strategy xM times and track the EV of SB and then compare it with a PoF SB strategy? |
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| Author: | cantina [ Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy |
I haven't played it against my P/F player. What's your EQ look like for 2BB? |
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| Author: | proud2bBot [ Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy |
Unfortunately I don't have time to develop on the strategies currently  However, I'd guess that 2BB is basically a PoF game, so to compare you could just find the optimal solution in CREV. Even though calling might be viable and part of a GTO solution, the difference between that and a PoF should be close to 0.
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