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| Author: | dalada17 [ Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Warning: NZT poker bot scammers! |
Hello fellow bot lovers and builders, My name is Daniel and I am part of the botting community for multiple years. I want to warn everybody to not do any kind of business with the guys from NZT poker bot. They use various names for their botting services: one of them is NZT, NZTPoker and so on. I know their team (mostly Russians or Ukrainians) for over 2 years now and my experiences with them is bad. In the past we were able to make small profits while paying thousands of dollars a month for their services. Last year the bot started losing and poker clubs on PP Poker and U poker started catching the bots quickly and the product went from slightly plus ev to rent to minus ev. I quitted using their product for a year and wanted to give it a try again when they started texting me by Telegram that there has been many changes and that the bot is much more advanced now than it was last year. First off they still owed me money from a different project they had on Pokerbros that also was a big fail, so they eventually convinced me to rent 2 bots at $200 a month without having to pay a one time fee of $1k. After having some issues and not being able to buy crypto easily in the country I live I asked them if paying by using skrill was an option, they told me no problem and so I send them $400 by Skrill. After a few minutes they told me that I had to send them $50 more because the exchange rates were high on Skrill, I was not pleased but decided to send the extra $50 eitherway. They also promised me to help me getting into poker clubs on PP Poker and I transferred another $100 to one of them his Telegram name is: @nztpoker. From the very beginning their bot was buggy and all sorts of issues occured while the bot played. One of the main issues was that the bot would lose a buy in at plo5 and would instant leave the table, I was told to not let the bot play 5card plo on its own and always have 2 bots at one table at all times. That seemed to be very difficult since swings are big at 5card plo and after losing an allin the bot refused to keep seated or get resea In the past we were able to make small profits while paying thousands of dollars a month for their services. Last year the bot started losing and poker clubs on PP Poker and U poker started catching the bots quickly and the product went from slightly plus ev to rent to minus ev. I quitted using their product for a year and wanted to give it a try again when they started texting me by Telegram that there has been many changes and that the bot is much more advanced now than it was last year. First off they still owed me money from a different project they had on Pokerbros that also was a big fail, so they eventually convinced me to rent 2 bots at $200 a month without having to pay a one time fee of $1k. After having some issues and not being able to buy crypto easily in the country i live i asked them if paying by using skrill was an option, they told me no problem and so i send them $400 by Skrill. After a few minutes they told me that i had to send them $50 more because the exchange rates were high on Skrill, i was not pleased but decided to send the extra $50 eitherway. They also promised me to help me getting into poker clubs on PP Poker and i transferred another $100 to one of them his Telegram name is: @nztpoker. From the very beginning their bot was buggy and all sorts of issues occured while the bot played. One of the main issues was that the bot would lose a buy in at plo5 and would instant leave the table, i was told to not let the bot play 5card plo on its own and always have 2 bots at one table at all times. That seemed to be very difficult since swings are big at 5card plo and after losing an allin the bot refused to keep seated or get reseated at the same table. I tried to explain this in baby language to their support guy name: @nztgroupsupport on Telegram but he kept saying the mistake was not a bug and it was on my end. After the discussion got very heated and i asked for a refund since i saw that they tricked me again to rent their wortless bot they decided to not reply on my messages any longer or just say there is variance in poker and other stupid quotes that have nothing to do with the situation. They also empty my PP account and stole all the chips i had on my agent and player account and by that stole the remainder of the $100 i had left. Be aware boys and girls, they are only after your money and will try every thing to scam you. Another trick they use is earasing messages they send by Telegram, i was lucky to screensaved the conversations with them before they earased the conversation. # #NZT bots Scammers# |
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| Author: | nbiresev [ Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Warning: NZT poker bot scammers! |
Thanks for info, i was wondering why they ask for 3200$ fee paid in advance for "training how to use their bots". I mean it is not enough that you have to subscription but have to pay fee for training. |
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| Author: | nlfighter [ Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Warning: NZT poker bot scammers! |
Try poker bots from Pokerbotai.com I've been working with these guys for almost six months now and earned about $7k. If any problem arises, they immediately solve it themselves. For me this time with them was "money without strain" And we started with one club of 40 people 
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| Author: | nbiresev [ Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Warning: NZT poker bot scammers! |
good to know that not everyone gets scammed just some people 
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| Author: | chadthelad [ Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Warning: NZT poker bot scammers! |
Not sure, I'm in talks with them and also not sure about the prepayments of 1k or so before even testing. What other solutions can we even use? -_- |
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| Author: | walaoehzac [ Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Warning: NZT poker bot scammers! |
any updates on this? I wanted to try them for chinese rooms |
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| Author: | ketozuka [ Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Warning: NZT poker bot scammers! |
In general, if we don't believe this person at all, one thing is clear, where the pig is involved with the Russians, at least 90 percent is a lie. |
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| Author: | dalada17 [ Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Warning: NZT poker bot scammers! |
walaoehzac wrote: any updates on this? I wanted to try them for chinese rooms I think that many people buy the test package, then lose all their money and forget about them |
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| Author: | nbiresev [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Warning: NZT poker bot scammers! |
I was using their poker bot app. I can tell that the strategy is so-so. The bad thing is it has patterns in strategy, bet sizes, timings so most experience players can in short time notice those are bots. Combining my bot that plays human like and mixing my strategy that is weaker than theirs with their AI works well. The issue is that their API is not user friendly, takes some time to make it run smooth. at the beginning i got a fair price for hands, after few months price increase and after few more months 3x price increase, saying 2 weeks only in advance. When you ask them to use API or their AI for specific poker sites, they say you can't, only at poker sites and clubs that they allow you. Those poker sites where they don't get banned they run bots by themselves, and those where they get lot of bans like pokerbros, pppoker after on average 2000 hands, they search for partners so that someone deposits 3000$ in advance and then realize after some time that they get banned too often, or that bot can't win more than your cost for bot due to club being bot infested. imagine if they allow you to run their bots in e.g. pppoker club. Imagine if htey already sold bots to 10 other guys who are also allowed to run bots in that club. At some point obviously club will be bot infested not only by their bots but there are also other Russian bot teams that do the same. They have plenty of sales guys who will write in forums and convince people who their product is great and you can win huge amounts of money by doing almost nothing. Nobody is going to give you money for doing almost nothing, they will only need you if you have something valueable to offer. |
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| Author: | ramanaya [ Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Warning: NZT poker bot scammers! |
Lol scammer wants to persecute scammers lmao 
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