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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:00 pm 
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Hello, i was wondering if this would work. If i bought multiple computers, a 3g modem or a mobile phone and plenty SIM cards with mobile internet and tried to connect them like this:
PC1 -> mobile -> SIM1
PC2 -> mobile -> SIM2
PC3 -> mobile -> SIM3
Would it be possible for pokersite (pokerstars in my case) to find out that these computers are somehow related?
Lets say i turn on PC1 -> put a SIM1 to my mobile phone -> log into poker site with account #1. Finish playing with account #1. After 1 hour i turn on PC2 -> put a SIM2 to my mobile phone(same phone) -> log into poker site with account #2. Would it be possible for them to find any relation between account #1 and #2? There are a lot of posts stating that hwid is generated with MAC address, but do i even get MAC address while connecting via 3g mobile internet? And different sims give me different IPs, does this help?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:45 pm 
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Using 3G modems is an interesting concept I had not thought about before. I am not sure about the mac address problem but it might solve other potential IP related issues like the use of a VPN which PS has been known to frown on. I remember not long ago PS banned entire IP ranges that certain VPN services used.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:05 pm 
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1. The phone has an unique ID of its own (IMEI), but you could use a different phone for each PC to circumvent that.
2. The IPs would be from the same adress group (assigned to your mobile carrier), which would be a clue if PS started investigating your accounts. Can be worked around by using SIM cards from different providers.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:47 am 
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Maybe there is a way to spoof IMEI adresses, however, i believe any cheapest nokia 3g phone would work. And what about connecting those computers to the same monitor/mouse/keyboard? Could these devices interfere with HWID and give a pokersite a clue that there is one person behind all those computers?

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1. The phone has an unique ID of its own (IMEI), but you could use a different phone for each PC to circumvent that.
2. The IPs would be from the same adress group (assigned to your mobile carrier), which would be a clue if PS started investigating your accounts. Can be worked around by using SIM cards from different providers.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:48 pm 
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I'm not sure about those.
In any case, standard advice applies - security is generally a lot easier than creating a profitable AI, so it's recommended to start with the latter.


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