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Author:  Flawless [ Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partners.

Hi,

We have a winning hyper-turbo HU SNG (25bb starting stack) AI.
We are looking for partners who have their own bots/poker room accounts and are willing to connect to external AI.
The cooperation will be based on profit sharing.

Contact me via PM for further details if interested.

Author:  cantina [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

P2BB, is that you??? I've missed you.

Do you have stats/graphs on the bot's performance?

Author:  Flawless [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

It's not P2 :?

We can provide some stats. What stats are you interested in?

Author:  cantina [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

ROI, a graph of earnings/games, buy-in, etc.

Author:  Flawless [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

OK, here are some stats.
(7% rake for super-turbo and 60% RB).

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Author:  nemesis17 [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

Sorry for the intrusion but isn't the sample too small to draw any conclusions about the win rate? For HU hypers it is very easy to have huge swings over 3k games.

Author:  Flawless [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

nemesis17 wrote:
Sorry for the intrusion but isn't the sample too small to draw any conclusions about the win rate? For HU hypers it is very easy to have huge swings over 3k games.


We calculate EV much better than HM does. The EV calculation method is based on bot's range versus opponent's hand in every situation where players saw a showdown. So this sample of 3k games is much more informative than 10k games with HM EV.

Author:  cantina [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

About how much time does that graph represent? How many weeks/months did it take to accumulate that bankroll?

Author:  flop+2cards [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

0.93, 2.78, 6.05, 13.1 — sounds like ipoker

i've never seen a lot of traffic on these sng. 3k games is good work.

Author:  cantina [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

iPoker doesn't have 25bb SNGs, do they? I thought they all started at 40bb?

Author:  nemesis17 [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

Flawless wrote:
nemesis17 wrote:
Sorry for the intrusion but isn't the sample too small to draw any conclusions about the win rate? For HU hypers it is very easy to have huge swings over 3k games.


We calculate EV much better than HM does. The EV calculation method is based on bot's range versus opponent's hand in every situation where players saw a showdown. So this sample of 3k games is much more informative than 10k games with HM EV.


Speaking of HM perhaps you could calculate a 95% confidence interval for the win rate using the ideas here http://www.quantitativepoker.com/2011/0 ... n-and.html.

Author:  cantina [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

What kind of bot is this? Simulation/Exploitation, Equilibrium, Rule-based?

Author:  flop+2cards [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

Nasher wrote:
iPoker doesn't have 25bb SNGs, do they? I thought they all started at 40bb?

they call it ultra turbo.

Author:  Flawless [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

Nasher wrote:
About how much time does that graph represent? How many weeks/months did it take to accumulate that bankroll?


It took us about 20 days (~150 games/day).

Nasher wrote:
What kind of bot is this? Simulation/Exploitation, Equilibrium, Rule-based?


Equilibrium. We are planning to add exploitation in future.

nemesis17 wrote:
Speaking of HM perhaps you could calculate a 95% confidence interval for the win rate using the ideas here http://www.quantitativepoker.com/2011/0 ... n-and.html.


Yes, we do calculate a 95% confidence interval. And not only for HM EV but also for "our" EV.

Author:  cantina [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

flop+2cards wrote:
they call it ultra turbo.

Are these new? I was trying to find them a bit ago but couldn't.

Author:  cantina [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

Flawless wrote:
Equilibrium. We are planning to add exploitation in future.

Can you tell us more about the abstraction? Size? Bucketing techniques? etc.

Author:  Flawless [ Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

Nasher wrote:
Flawless wrote:
Equilibrium. We are planning to add exploitation in future.

Can you tell us more about the abstraction? Size? Bucketing techniques? etc.


It's an unique solution and I can't reveal any details unfortunately.

Author:  AutoFocus [ Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hyper Turbo HU SNG AI for Connection. Looking for Partne

Could you please contact me.
I would like to test your AI with my bot.

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