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Difference between CS-CRM and Vanilla
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Author:  Hipp [ Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Difference between CS-CRM and Vanilla
Please tell me if I am right:
Vanilla: every iteration we pick randomly only board cards. We traverse whole decisions tree and players possible hole cards.
Chance Sampled CRM: every iteration we pick randomly board cards & players hole cards, and traverse whole decisions tree.

Am I right? If not - can you please explain me the difference in a simple words?
Author:  Hipp [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Difference between CS-CRM and Vanilla
So nobody knows :( ?
Author:  spears [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Difference between CS-CRM and Vanilla
Where did you see the terms?
Author:  Hipp [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Difference between CS-CRM and Vanilla
On the forum (archive) ?
Author:  spears [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Difference between CS-CRM and Vanilla
If you want help you need to do more work. Give me a link.
Author:  Hipp [ Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Difference between CS-CRM and Vanilla
http://poker-ai.org/archive/www.pokerai ... a&start=20

I'm sorry. The shortcut is "CFR" not "CRM" (I don't know why). But on forum you call it CFRM.
Author:  spears [ Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Difference between CS-CRM and Vanilla
Hipp wrote:
Vanilla: every iteration we pick randomly only board cards. We traverse whole decisions tree and players possible hole cards.
Chance Sampled CRM: every iteration we pick randomly board cards & players hole cards, and traverse whole decisions tree.

Correct

counter-factual regret minimisation or counter-factual regret minimisation
Author:  amax [ Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Difference between CS-CRM and Vanilla
No, that's not correct.

Vanilla: Nothing is sampled. You traverse the whole tree, including all board card combinations.
Public chance sampling: Board cards (public information) are sampled. Obviously this is the same as vanilla if there is no public information.
Chance sampling: Board cards and hole cards (private information) are sampled.
External sampling: Chance sampling + opponent's strategy is also sampled.

etc... There is more to sample.
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