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Author:  listerofsmeg [ Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Possible ways to approach a 9-handed poker AI

Hi. I want to create a poker AI that would play in an online environment with lots of limping, multi-way pots, etc.

It should be able to play 6-max and 9-max tables, shouldn't require a lot of computation to act and it would be nice if it could be adjusted in some way to exploit the environment.

What is a good approach?

I've been following the poker research for years but this still seems like a somewhat uncharted territory. The state-of-the art seems to be Pluribus, but it's very complex, it's 6-max, requires fixed starting stacks and uses a lot of computation resources. And the near-GTO strategy may not even be appropriate in a highly exploitable setting.

Right now I'm thinking about this, although it's a very vague idea - create some sort of a parametrized strategy template with hundreds or thousands of parameters and optimize the parameters via self-play.

What do you think?

Author:  listerofsmeg [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Possible ways to approach a 9-handed poker AI

Here is what I have in mind.

Create a strategy with a bunch of parameters, let's say a 1000. The strategy would be designed in a way that some choice of parameters would result in a strategy that is "good", i.e. not very exploitable.

For example, there could be a bunch of rules such as - on the flop in position, value bet hands with p_1 % equity against opponent's range and bluff p_2 % of our range.

But the question is, how to optimize the parameters, ideally via some CFR-like algorithm?

Author:  listerofsmeg [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Possible ways to approach a 9-handed poker AI

Nevermind, I think I've figured it out.

Author:  zggcd [ Sat May 07, 2022 1:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Possible ways to approach a 9-handed poker AI

Hii, I'm interested in 9-handed poker AI too. Most Chinese sites play 9-handed poker, and these sites don't detect RTA or bot. Accounts using AI and RTA would be perfectly safe in these sites. Also the player pool is huge given the population in China. I've been played in these sites for a while. There are indeed many limping and people who just likes call open. The AI strategy for this player pool should be different from the mainstream AI algothrimn. I'm also researching this topic and are looking forward to discuss it with you.

Author:  DavyBlaid [ Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Possible ways to approach a 9-handed poker AI

It seems to me that it's impossible to pick one strategy for poker that will work all the time, because every time the game and the players are different. A few months ago I was playing poker, but soon I got tired of losing because I couldn't win with one strategy.

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