What about an army of phones routed via different VPNs?
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| Author: | eugen [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Poker rooms for mobile phones |
Has anyone investigated the possibilities of exploiting mobile poker rooms? I.e. http://www.pokerstars.com/mobile/ Are spyware capabilities on Android or iOS more limited compared to Windows OS? Also snooping on the i/o traffic should be easier, maybe even a possibility to create headless poker client? Poker sites can't really track for things like cursor movement, can't really resize screen much, can't trigger captcha and so on. |
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| Author: | proud2bBot [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
The problem is that you'll get flagged instantly if you play a lot of hours/tables I guess. |
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| Author: | Coffee4tw [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
And you can't multi-table so unless your bot is winning at a sick rate it's not really worth your while. |
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| Author: | pumpkinpuree [ Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
As proud2bBot said, noone ever would play poker for hours on end on a smartphone. |
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| Author: | eugen [ Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
What about an army of phones routed via different VPNs?
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| Author: | flop+2cards [ Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
eugen wrote: army of phones it is expensive |
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| Author: | proud2bBot [ Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
Actually you dont need a phone, but just an Android SDK... |
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| Author: | cantina [ Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
Wouldn't that be a flag, a phone OS from a non-phone ISP? |
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| Author: | proud2bBot [ Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
No, just build a server farm in a nearby McDonalds or Starbucks and use the free wifi 
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| Author: | Blub478 [ Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
Actually, the idea isn't that bad. For instance http://androvm.org/blog/. Afaik you can emulate the hardware so that it seems a real smatphone / tablet is running. VPNs would be the most expensive part. |
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| Author: | winnie [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
Blub478 wrote: VPNs would be the most expensive part. If someones pokerlogic is not able to earn enough money to pay a vpn service, he should invest his time in other things than coding a bot 
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| Author: | Coffee4tw [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
VPNs are flags, Phone VMs are flags and everything together is likely slow and unusable. Basic user patterns are against you as a botter on phones, you'll never be able to make any sort of profit with a regular phone user's behavior and playing pattern. |
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| Author: | northcroft [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
If you made a HUD for android or iOS there's probably some cash to be made licensing it as an app. Would not have much (if any???) competition. Then again probably would not be worth the effort. Kinda off topic too, my bad |
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| Author: | flop+2cards [ Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
Coffee4tw wrote: Basic user patterns are against you as a botter on phones, you'll never be able to make any sort of profit with a regular phone user's behavior and playing pattern. if u run a Phone VMs on a VPS — you can earn a lot of money in the future [not now] |
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| Author: | Coffee4tw [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
flop+2cards wrote: if u run a Phone VMs on a VPS — you can earn a lot of money in the future [not now] There are so many issues and flags that I can think of with that. What makes you think is is going to be a good idea in the future? |
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| Author: | flop+2cards [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
The flag is not a ban. I'm not afraid of the flag or ban at the beginning. I can afford to lose $100 in an attempt to find a profitable place. In the future, because the room in which I want to play doesn't have android client now. They plan to release it this year. There is a bonus that is hard to get on PC. |
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| Author: | Blub478 [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
May I ask which site you are talking about? |
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| Author: | flop+2cards [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
hmmm... The size of the archive Android SDK is 405,9MB. Installation and configuration is time-consuming. I cann't run the SDK Manager at VDS. Blub478 wrote: May I ask which site you are talking about? Do you mean the poker room? this is 3d room
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| Author: | flop+2cards [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
3D room launched android poker app |
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| Author: | MrBrown [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones |
Given current trends (and I wish they weren't so), with growth in tablet/smartphone markets, and reduction in sales of PCs, it would be safe to conclude that future of online entertainment is on these devices, and not on PCs. From there, it would be safe to conclude that future of online botting is exactly on those devices. Yes, both IOS and Android can run inside simulated hardware, but these are trivial to detect from the app, and much less likely to be widely used by legitimate players (eg Mac user playing on PC-client only site). Both IOS and Android run on Linux kernel, which is not as friendly to memory reads and unsolicited interference. Actual phone/tablet won't be able to run the bot and poker client without custom kernel. Lucky for us, custom kernels on Android devices are relatively widespread. Also lucky for us, legitimate apps will have much less access to interrogate what else we have running, and certainly can't enumerate processes, checksum files, and report our browsing history.. My conclusion is -- tools and techniques will change, but not much else.. |
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