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Author:  morello [ Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  stealth / handling captchas
hi
got 2 questions about stealth

till now i did handle the captchas via autoit. i did check the chatwindow for pixel changes...is there a better way to do it? i mean is there a possibility to recognize text like "you have 120 seconds to enter etc..."....or what about recaptcha tools? or even humans that solve captchas in realtime....

2. is it possible for the pokersites to find out that we scrape the tables? i mean yes they could change the holecards positions or resize tables etc...but beside that is it still possible for them to find out?

many thanks for a little help in the right direction :roll:

morello
Author:  nefton [ Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: stealth / handling captchas
С++ you need :) Not Autoit.
Author:  spears [ Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: stealth / handling captchas
morello wrote:
2. is it possible for the pokersites to find out that we scrape the tables? i mean yes they could change the holecards positions or resize tables etc...but beside that is it still possible for them to find out?


Yes, unless you take countermeasures. Search the site and the archive to find out more.
Author:  morello [ Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: stealth / handling captchas
many thanks so far for all the replies

С++ you need :) Not Autoit.

so how does С++ can help me for captcha detection? i have no programming experience in that language :shock:

is it possible with it to recognize a "text" within a chatt or on the desktop right? cause with autoit this is not really possible...
goal is to detect a captcha with the help of a matching text line like "you have 120 minutes to solve it etc.." ...

ps: spears yes they can detect it when they resize the tables right? but besides resizing tables is it still possible to recognize i am scraping? did not find enough informations on the archive about that :?

thanks a lot ;)
morello
Author:  spears [ Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: stealth / handling captchas
They can detect it without resizing the table, or indeed doing anything visible. And there lots of info on this. Any more questions from you that indicate you are not doing any research and I'm just going to delete you and your posts.
Author:  morello [ Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: stealth / handling captchas
sorry its maybe because of my bad english...i did indeed searched the archive for screen scraping but will do it again.
sorry
Author:  morello [ Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: stealth / handling captchas
so i did again taking a look in the archive for screen scrapping and just found (maybe because my english is not that good)
replies about to use it on virtualbox for antidetection...
look i am now since months trying to find ways to go undetected..i need to bot on sites like stars or party because my bot plays fullring and there is just too little traffic on other sites. i have found a better way than using bring, i got mousemovements more human than the standart openholdem mouse does..etc...but now i am here to solve captchas etc...and now i hear screen scrapping is also detectable :? then i am asking myself what was all the work worth if even screen scraping is detectable that easy :shock:
so i just hoped for a good tip how to solve this problem in an easy way for someone like me that has not a lot of programming experience :mrgreen:
Author:  spears [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: stealth / handling captchas
- Screen scraping isn't detectable if you use a VM but the VM is detectable and that is a flag in itself
- I don't know of any solutions that don't require some reasonably advanced programming
Author:  Nose [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: stealth / handling captchas
Yes, screen scraping also isn't detectable if you physically take pictures off the screen with a camera ...

Many techniques might be usable at this point in time, but as soon as you suggest them in public they are tainted. Just a hint: Google for techniques to prevent other applications from making screenshots of your process. As you will see this question has been asked many times and everywhere you can see people responding that this is impossible because one could ... ... ...

There you go :)
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