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 Post subject: HUNL 2BB Strategy
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:49 am 
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Something interesting when crunching a strategy for a 2BB stack size game, it doesn't always push/fold.

For example, with: 74o, 72s, 63o, 54o, 52s it's calling some high portion of the time from the SB.


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 Post subject: Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:04 pm 
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That depends on what abstraction you allow it to play right?
What abstraction are you using for your number crunching here?

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 Post subject: Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:22 am 
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Same as the 6bb strat.


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 Post subject: Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:30 pm 
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Interesting. This kind of supports my theory that no action really ever dominates another action for all scenarios.
If you add calling or raising a smaller (maybe even larger?) amount, then that action will likely get some percentage of play somewhere.

Too many people think P/F is OBVIOUSLY better than calling with small stacks but it's really not game theoretically. It just makes life easier and obfuscates the strength of the hand.

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 Post subject: Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:31 pm 
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I guess in a fold/call/push scenario it's +EV to call sometimes and hope your opponent has crap too.


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 Post subject: Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:38 pm 
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For the 2bb example: are the listed hands the only calling hands? If so, BB should basically raise any hand vs limps and thus we cannot fold anymore given the pot odds. This means, we should shove the hand as there we might have a tiny bit of FE which should outweight the cases where BB has 72o and checks vs our limp.


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 Post subject: Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:11 am 
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I think so. Are you saying by this p2bb that it's a flawed strategy to call at all from the button?


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 Post subject: Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:15 pm 
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Not necessarily. Given the 2bb stacks and the fact that we basically can't limp/fold, I'd find it weird that its valid to limp only the worst hands (unbalanced): villain can make easy value shoves with most hands and his worst hands can play perfectly against us as our range is small and defined.
Did you run the strategy xM times and track the EV of SB and then compare it with a PoF SB strategy?


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 Post subject: Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:57 pm 
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I haven't played it against my P/F player. What's your EQ look like for 2BB?


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 Post subject: Re: HUNL 2BB Strategy
PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:09 pm 
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Unfortunately I don't have time to develop on the strategies currently :( However, I'd guess that 2BB is basically a PoF game, so to compare you could just find the optimal solution in CREV. Even though calling might be viable and part of a GTO solution, the difference between that and a PoF should be close to 0.


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