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Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-06-21T14:45:16+00:00

Given current trends (and I wish they weren't so), with growth in tablet/smartphone markets, and reduction in sales of PCs, it would be safe to conclude that future of online entertainment is on these devices, and not on PCs.

From there, it would be safe to conclude that future of online botting is exactly on those devices.

Yes, both IOS and Android can run inside simulated hardware, but these are trivial to detect from the app, and much less likely to be widely used by legitimate players (eg Mac user playing on PC-client only site).

Both IOS and Android run on Linux kernel, which is not as friendly to memory reads and unsolicited interference.

Actual phone/tablet won't be able to run the bot and poker client without custom kernel. Lucky for us, custom kernels on Android devices are relatively widespread.

Also lucky for us, legitimate apps will have much less access to interrogate what else we have running, and certainly can't enumerate processes, checksum files, and report our browsing history..

My conclusion is -- tools and techniques will change, but not much else..

Statistics: Posted by MrBrown — Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:45 pm

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-06-21T03:48:04+00:00

3D room launched android poker app

Statistics: Posted by flop+2cards — Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:48 am

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-17T13:28:08+00:00

hmmm... The size of the archive Android SDK is 405,9MB. Installation and configuration is time-consuming. I cann't run the SDK Manager at VDS.

Blub478 wrote:

May I ask which site you are talking about?

Do you mean the poker room? this is 3d room

Statistics: Posted by flop+2cards — Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:28 pm

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-17T13:23:47+00:00

May I ask which site you are talking about?

Statistics: Posted by Blub478 — Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:23 pm

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-17T10:28:30+00:00

The flag is not a ban. I'm not afraid of the flag or ban at the beginning. I can afford to lose $100 in an attempt to find a profitable place.

In the future, because the room in which I want to play doesn't have android client now. They plan to release it this year. There is a bonus that is hard to get on PC.

Statistics: Posted by flop+2cards — Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:28 am

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-17T00:47:16+00:00

flop+2cards wrote:

if u run a Phone VMs on a VPS — you can earn a lot of money in the future [not now]

There are so many issues and flags that I can think of with that. What makes you think is is going to be a good idea in the future?

Statistics: Posted by Coffee4tw — Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:47 am

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-13T17:44:56+00:00

Coffee4tw wrote:

Basic user patterns are against you as a botter on phones, you'll never be able to make any sort of profit with a regular phone user's behavior and playing pattern.

if u run a Phone VMs on a VPS — you can earn a lot of money in the future [not now]

Statistics: Posted by flop+2cards — Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:44 pm

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-13T15:33:35+00:00

If you made a HUD for android or iOS there's probably some cash to be made licensing it as an app. Would not have much (if any???) competition. Then again probably would not be worth the effort. Kinda off topic too, my bad

Statistics: Posted by northcroft — Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:33 pm

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-13T02:52:21+00:00

VPNs are flags, Phone VMs are flags and everything together is likely slow and unusable.
Basic user patterns are against you as a botter on phones, you'll never be able to make any sort of profit with a regular phone user's behavior and playing pattern.

Statistics: Posted by Coffee4tw — Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:52 am

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-11T07:16:00+00:00

Blub478 wrote:

VPNs would be the most expensive part.

If someones pokerlogic is not able to earn enough money to pay a vpn service, he should invest his time in other things than coding a bot

Statistics: Posted by winnie — Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:16 am

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-10T11:28:38+00:00

Actually, the idea isn't that bad.
For instance http://androvm.org/blog/.
Afaik you can emulate the hardware so that it seems a real smatphone / tablet is running.
VPNs would be the most expensive part.

Statistics: Posted by Blub478 — Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:28 am

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-09T21:34:22+00:00

No, just build a server farm in a nearby McDonalds or Starbucks and use the free wifi

Statistics: Posted by proud2bBot — Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:34 pm

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-09T19:51:43+00:00

Wouldn't that be a flag, a phone OS from a non-phone ISP?

Statistics: Posted by cantina — Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:51 pm

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-09T13:01:08+00:00

Actually you dont need a phone, but just an Android SDK...

Statistics: Posted by proud2bBot — Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:01 pm

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-09T11:06:54+00:00

eugen wrote:

army of phones

it is expensive

Statistics: Posted by flop+2cards — Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:06 am

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-09T10:11:10+00:00

What about an army of phones routed via different VPNs?

Statistics: Posted by eugen — Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:11 am

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-09T10:09:08+00:00

As proud2bBot said, noone ever would play poker for hours on end on a smartphone.

Statistics: Posted by pumpkinpuree — Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:09 am

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-04T16:32:59+00:00

And you can't multi-table so unless your bot is winning at a sick rate it's not really worth your while.

Statistics: Posted by Coffee4tw — Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:32 pm

Re: Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-04T15:02:07+00:00

The problem is that you'll get flagged instantly if you play a lot of hours/tables I guess.

Statistics: Posted by proud2bBot — Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:02 pm

Poker rooms for mobile phones

2013-04-04T10:28:47+00:00

Has anyone investigated the possibilities of exploiting mobile poker rooms?
I.e. http://www.pokerstars.com/mobile/

Are spyware capabilities on Android or iOS more limited compared to Windows OS?
Also snooping on the i/o traffic should be easier, maybe even a possibility to create headless poker client?
Poker sites can't really track for things like cursor movement, can't really resize screen much, can't trigger captcha and so on.

Statistics: Posted by eugen — Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:28 am