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Re: Does my program violate Pokerstars TOS?

2016-01-08T19:18:06+00:00

Yes, you can definitely query the DB of these programs -- from what I remember from a similar program I tried writing last year, PT4's schema is a bit easier to use in a generic way. HEM seems to centralize it's schema around stats that are only pertinent to the "hero" that's been assigned in the program's settings. Perhaps I've missed some things though, so I'd welcome other input.

This time around, I'm considering writing my own hand-history parsing along with a class hierarchy that allows me elegantly query for statistics in different spots -- both on an individual villain basis and for averages of the entire population at a certain stake level, in case the villain's sample size is too small.

Statistics: Posted by honkytonk123 — Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:18 pm

Re: Does my program violate Pokerstars TOS?

2015-06-19T00:55:35+00:00

shalako wrote:

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Thanks for clearing that up.

Regardless, from my understanding PT and HM collect this information live without any implications so i guess there shouldn't be a reason why I'm not allowed to do the same.. right?

It it possible though to query data like current position and hand from the PT/HM database or from some other API? That would save me a lot of headaches.

Statistics: Posted by fsociety — Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:55 am

Re: Does my program violate Pokerstars TOS?

2015-06-16T21:04:58+00:00

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Yeah it would definitely violate the TOS but since your "advisor" is not commercial there is no way for them to know your using it as they would not know what to look for. Back in the day I believe many casinos took screenshots but I highly doubt they do that now due to privacy concerns which they claim they do not violate. There are several methods to prevent them from doing so anyway. They log every mouse click and hot key use to their app only. There is no way they could justify logging all the keystrokes on your computer without getting them into some serious legal trouble. However..be advised that PS is a piece of spyware and snoops around your computer more then it should.

Statistics: Posted by shalako — Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:04 pm

Does my program violate Pokerstars TOS?

2015-06-16T02:56:06+00:00

I'm currently writing a simple program that will recommend preflop actions based on game, table position and predefined opening/3b ranges etc.
The purpose of the tool is to help me making better decisions starting off with cash games (i will drop the program once it is memorized). As of right now, the program is very simple. For every hand, I have to manually type in the table position, the hand I'm currently holding and if any villian bet before me (or if I got 3 bet, you get the idea).

From Pokerstars TOS:

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The following types of tools and services are generally acceptable:
Tools, services, or charts that simply tell you odds, starting hand recommendations, etc.

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The following types of tools and services are prohibited:
Any tool or service that offers dynamic, real-time commentary or advice on the current game state that goes beyond reporting data and statistics.

So I guess my question is, does my tool violate terms?
Although the program does simple starting hand recommendations, it does give some real time "advice" to some extent, am I wrong?
Is it possible for Pokerstars to somehow capture screenshots or log keystrokes?

On another note I've contemplated using image scraping techniques so I don't have to manually enter cards and pos every hand but I don't really see how its worth the effort given the tools purposes. I never used hand tracking software such as or PT4 but I would imagine it is possible to query this information from the database, yes?

Statistics: Posted by fsociety — Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:56 am