Poker-AI.org Poker AI and Botting Discussion Forum 2016-04-14T09:54:24+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/feed.php?f=26&t=2911 2015-07-11T16:37:45+00:00 2015-07-11T16:37:45+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6749#p6749 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]> DEA_guy wrote:

I don't know about you guys but I'm so fricken upset that I can't rape innocent victims anymore. :( Gah! We were having so much fun raping the shit out of people and framing people left and right with this here Hacking Team malware why did somebody have to go any ruin our fun!!!!!!!!!!!!! We literally had no oversight what-so-fucking-ever to stalk and harass the shit out of people. Now people will be able to detect our software and sue us. :( Guess I'll just have to drown my sorrows in some Mexican cartel funded hookers.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07 ... -the-wild/

I'm pissed off to and I feelz you right the heart G. That feeling you know when you can rape an innocent person it's so powerful. GD! I miss it! All this nonsense about power corrupts we at the FBI don't give a fuck cause we believe we're superior. Shit! And like encryption and shit it's totally going to ruin our fun. Fuck man I hope congress doesn't see past our bullshit. Guess I'll go steal some heroin from an evidence locker and drown my sorrows.

P.S. we should hang out sometime.

Statistics: Posted by FBI_special_agent — Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:37 pm


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2015-07-09T15:04:28+00:00 2015-07-09T15:04:28+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6743#p6743 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]> Gah! We were having so much fun raping the shit out of people and framing people left and right with this here Hacking Team malware why did somebody have to go any ruin our fun!!!!!!!!!!!!! We literally had no oversight what-so-fucking-ever to stalk and harass the shit out of people. Now people will be able to detect our software and sue us. :( Guess I'll just have to drown my sorrows in some Mexican cartel funded hookers.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07 ... -the-wild/

Statistics: Posted by DEA_guy — Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:04 pm


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2015-06-22T00:04:15+00:00 2015-06-22T00:04:15+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6728#p6728 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]> Statistics: Posted by BarneyFife — Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:04 am


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2015-06-19T22:13:26+00:00 2015-06-19T22:13:26+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6726#p6726 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]> Statistics: Posted by Lawyer — Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:13 pm


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2015-06-04T17:19:43+00:00 2015-06-04T17:19:43+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6705#p6705 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]> Statistics: Posted by SignOfTheTimes — Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:19 pm


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2016-04-14T09:54:24+00:00 2015-06-04T16:33:03+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6704#p6704 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]> Statistics: Posted by cantina — Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:33 pm


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2015-06-04T16:15:35+00:00 2015-06-04T16:15:35+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6703#p6703 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]>

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Nena
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Buy a bag of balloons with the money we've got
Set them free at the break of dawn
'Til one by one they were gone
Back at base bugs in the software
Flash the message "something's out there!"
Floating in the summer sky
Ninety-nine red balloons go by

Ninety-nine red balloons
Floating in the summer sky
Panic bells, it's red alert
There's something here from somewhere else
The war machine springs to life
Opens up one eager eye
Focusing it on the sky
Where ninety-nine red balloons go by

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Ninety-nine ministers meet
To worry, worry, super scurry
Call the troops out in a hurry
This is what we've waited for
This is it, boys, this is war
The president is on the line
As ninety-nine red balloons go by

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Statistics: Posted by 99RedBaloons — Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:15 pm


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2015-06-01T14:54:37+00:00 2015-06-01T14:54:37+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6693#p6693 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]> Statistics: Posted by NSAOinkOink — Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:54 pm


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2015-05-30T12:04:45+00:00 2015-05-30T12:04:45+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6692#p6692 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]> ISmellBacon wrote:

Generally, when you connect to Teamviewer, you're connecting through their servers. Both the client and server connect outbound only. So it's unlikely the "IP connected to your friends machine through teamviewer matched the IP of the player he lost money to on the table (the hacker)."

HoldemManager doesn't allow remote access as far as I know, their main purpose is to ... well, manage hold'em. They inject code into the casino app to gain access to the game state, but they don't operate as a RAT.

"The malware ... pings the hacker, and is able take a file to download/run." What? Why would the hacker need to download/run a file if he/she was just viewing the opp's cards with TeamViewer?

Your entire story sounds very convoluted and doesn't really make any sense, especially from somebody claiming to be a "malware researcher." Even I, a mentally retarded pig, can see through this BS.


You pretty much managed to misunderstand everything I said, and you're also not as smart as you think you are. Let me break it down.

- Teamviewer is indeed not P2P, but teamviewer also uses an ID to connect to the other party that shows in the window title. For readers that haven't used Teamviewer before, I said IP just to make it simpler for them to understand. The story was complicated, I needed to trim the fat. Pokerstars noticed the ID matched in both windows on both players machines.

- I never said holdemanager is a RAT. I was saying this person used a cracked version with the trial removed. The person who cracked it, attached their own separate payload inside the program and had it run every time the person ran holdemanager. (this is why you should never use cracks)

- The malware that was in the holdemanager crack was simple, it was just what we call a 'loader'. It injects itself into a running process, and then sits and waits while sending out periodic pings back to it's C&C looking for a file to download and run. That's it's only functionality, as it keeps malware small and stealth. A popular loader for example was Smoke Loader. In this case, the loader was pulling in a teamviewer binary with some AutoIt script attached that installs it automatically, and sends the attacker back the ID pass to connect. This is the kind of malware your anti-virus/firewall will NOT catch.

Next time don't judge people, you should be grateful I even shared what I know. It's an almost certainty some scumbag will read this and get a smart idea.

Statistics: Posted by FactorLean — Sat May 30, 2015 12:04 pm


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2015-05-29T23:49:03+00:00 2015-05-29T23:49:03+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6690#p6690 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]>
HoldemManager doesn't allow remote access as far as I know, their main purpose is to ... well, manage hold'em. They inject code into the casino app to gain access to the game state, but they don't operate as a RAT.

"The malware ... pings the hacker, and is able take a file to download/run." What? Why would the hacker need to download/run a file if he/she was just viewing the opp's cards with TeamViewer?

Your entire story sounds very convoluted and doesn't really make any sense, especially from somebody claiming to be a "malware researcher." Even I, a mentally retarded pig, can see through this BS.

Statistics: Posted by ISmellBacon — Fri May 29, 2015 11:49 pm


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2015-05-29T19:36:34+00:00 2015-05-29T19:36:34+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6688#p6688 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]>
Something that may be relevant, I know someone who was hacked several years ago on Stars with a RAT. The person used the RAT to first gain access, then when the person was asleep (computer still on) they installed teamviewer and proceeded to play on their account and loose money to the hacker in a real game. Stars is very smart and they record a lot of data. They told my friend the exact process that was used by the RAT which was svchost, and they saw the new installation and usage of teamviewer + the IP it was connected to. They returned him his money, $7,000, because they IP connected to my friends machine through teamviewer matched the IP of the player he lost money to on the table (the hacker).

My friend, knowing I was a malware researcher and into reverse-engineering, sent me the sample of the RAT (it came from a cracked version of HoldemManager) and I found Stars was indeed right. The malware would inject itself into an open instance of svchost, then it pings the hacker, and is able to take a file to download/run.

I've also done my own research and know for a fact several Stars staff members post on rohitab.com so they know a good amount about malware, and memory/win API tricks. One of their current security engineers used to work at Symantec too.

Statistics: Posted by FactorLean — Fri May 29, 2015 7:36 pm


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2015-05-27T09:58:45+00:00 2015-05-27T09:58:45+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6683#p6683 <![CDATA[Re: Remote access via RAT?]]> Statistics: Posted by ISmellBacon — Wed May 27, 2015 9:58 am


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2015-05-23T07:28:17+00:00 2015-05-23T07:28:17+00:00 http://poker-ai.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2911&p=6681#p6681 <![CDATA[Remote access via RAT?]]>
i was wondering what are the expereriences using a custom built RAT that disguises as a system process on the "infected" machine and doing a Remote Screenshare from the Host where i capture my Screenshots on. How detectable / supsicious is that?

Thank you.

Statistics: Posted by kafka01 — Sat May 23, 2015 7:28 am


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