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 Post subject: Re: Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:01 am 
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Any predictions as to the future "top 3"?


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 Post subject: Re: Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:46 pm 
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Any predictions as to the future "top 3"?

If all sites stop allowing US players the top 3 will stay the top 3. If a few sites still allow US players, then those will be the new top sites. PS and FT were very small compared to Part Poker before PP closed its doors to US players.


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 Post subject: Re: Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:04 pm 
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Merge Network has really been climbing in player count recently. Last I checked they'd grown by more than 30% over the past week. There's games running at all levels on there now and the site is still crawling with fish. Not quite sure why it took off more than Bodog did at the moment, as Bodog seemed best positioned to snap up the market with the extra resources they have from the sports betting revenue. Cake seems to be taking the 3rd place spot at the moment. Pretty much any of the 4 or 5 sites with a US checkmark on http://pokerscout.com/ could end up big, but I'm guessing it will be Merge, Bodog, and Cake.

Best part of all these smaller sites taking off is that they're all still win32 subsystem so manipulating/reading them is ridiculously easy compared to Full Tilt / Stars. They're also probably going to be occupied with explosive player growth in the near future so the odds of a high quality (or even functional) bot detection system are pretty slim.


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 Post subject: Re: Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:04 pm 
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Merge Network has really been climbing in player count recently. Last I checked they'd grown by more than 30% over the past week. There's games running at all levels on there now and the site is still crawling with fish. Not quite sure why it took off more than Bodog did at the moment, as Bodog seemed best positioned to snap up the market with the extra resources they have from the sports betting revenue. Cake seems to be taking the 3rd place spot at the moment. Pretty much any of the 4 or 5 sites with a US checkmark on http://pokerscout.com/ could end up big, but I'm guessing it will be Merge, Bodog, and Cake.

Best part of all these smaller sites taking off is that they're all still win32 subsystem so manipulating/reading them is ridiculously easy compared to Full Tilt / Stars. They're also probably going to be occupied with explosive player growth in the near future so the odds of a high quality (or even functional) bot detection system are pretty slim.


It's time to start botting again...


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 Post subject: Re: Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:49 pm 
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I dont mean to get off topic but cake poker is still using win32?

Back on topic, I went over to 2+2 and saw that many of their members have been petitioning their state representatives. I don't think this will be a priority with all the other crap going on in the US. It would be an insane amount of income for the government if they taxed it though. More companies to foot the bill of their fail boat...

The real question is if these sites are accepting US customers how are they getting away with it?

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 Post subject: Re: Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:13 pm 
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PokerProspector wrote:
Merge Network has really been climbing in player count recently. Last I checked they'd grown by more than 30% over the past week.

Where are you getting these stats?


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 Post subject: Re: Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:39 pm 
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I got my numbers from some articles on pokernews, which I suspect got its numbers from pokerscout.


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 Post subject: Re: Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:51 pm 
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http://www.pokerscout.com/news/weekly-t ... 11&week=19 - There's a summary of how the poker world has changed in the past few weeks.

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- Cereus Network has lost more than 3/4 of its traffic and has become a minor player in online poker

- Merge Gaming Network continues to climb, gaining 69% since Black Friday

- Bodog and Cake Poker Network have seemingly lost momentum, leaving Merge as the clear winner in the US market

- European sites overall have not posted especially strong gains since Black Friday

- PartyPoker traffic has risen 10%, but this may be primarily due to aggressive promotions, including the very popular Gladiator which started yesterday (May 1)


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 Post subject: Re: Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:24 am 
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I'm trying to pull my money out of Cereus and it aint easy!


Got this from RTR today too... sounds like they've got serious cash flow problems.
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Many of you have asked about the absence of our regular promotions for May on Absolute Poker and Ultimate Bet on the Cereus Network - promotions that we have run with these rooms every month without fail for 5 years.

Because of the payment processing difficulties being experienced by Cereus at present, they are unable to process several months of our commission payments.
We have therefore taken a decision not to run a rake race or a freeroll this month on their network.
In addition we have temporarily withdrawn AP and UB from our sites as a sign-up option for new or existing RTR members.
We have informed AP and UB of this business decision and they understand and back it 100%.


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 Post subject: Re: Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:50 pm 
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So most of the players PS, FTP, UB lost - just ceased playing poker, it seems, summing up the stats ... ?

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 Post subject: Re: Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 4:02 am 
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I think the main problem right now for US players is two things:

1) Most of their money is in a bankroll they can't cash out (on Full Tilt / Cereus network).
2) It's painful to get money into the smaller sites. One of the sites I looked at putting money into even goes as far as to wanting you to just transfer money to some guy in the Phillipines.

As more players cash out and find ways to cash into other sites, I think we'll see the numbers go up. Probably not to the same volume as before - some players are definitely gone for good, but the money is just too good for some people to give up.


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