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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged to keep players happy
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:59 am 
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Could we please ban this guy now?


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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged to keep players happy
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:04 am 
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Oh yes i forgot to tell you guys out there that think i am full of shit i am now on mansion poker
winning or coming second every time, if you dont belive me check it out on sharkscope
My name is Darkmindz now ive only played a few games and im up 200 pounds i only made the account the day. I have only
lost one game out of 9 check it out, and ive gone on much better runs on new accounts
i had won 7 110 doller torneys in a row i nearly broke the record on sharkscope
now that either makes me a fucking pro or online poker is fucing rigged you make your mind up.
And you know what i am willing to let all you guys remote assistance to my pc through vnc
so you can see this working.


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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged to keep players happy
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:18 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged to keep players happy
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:54 am 
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Could we please ban this guy now?

It would be a precendent to ban someone for writing stuff in junk. On the other hand, I think he's a fraudster, and that he was banned for chargebacks at FullTilt. So I'll most probably ban him.

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and you know whats the funnest thing of all, is this is in the junk section and you senior members spend most of your time in here.

That's just all you can see (have access to). Evil, is this guy you?:

http://gotkeys.org/forum/member.php?u=1

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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged to keep players happy
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:11 am 
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Evil guy is a bit to rude I agree, but don't blame him for fraudulent when you bot yourself, especially the way you more experienced guys bot comes very close to fraudulent activitie's, I don't care, but don't blame someone else for what you do your self.

If you work so hard on anti-detection and that kind of things your not much better yourself, same when you bot on multiple accounts on friends/family names, it stays fraudulent as hell, Indiana no hard feelings but I read that you were banned before from a pokersite, well thats because you bot, and botting is illegal = fraudulent.

Whats a chargeback?


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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged to keep players happy
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:41 pm 
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I think he means when i come to withdraw my money they take back the bonus money.
And yes i can be a bit rude but peppa started this shit buy trying to rip me and newbee,
to be honest if you guys had any sence we could all team up and do something big.
The house wins and that it, your bots are gonna get laughed at online, but there is other better way i know of, to make real big money, just depends on the trust levels here.
If we had a good team of 5 we could do it im talking thousands.
These sites cheat us so i cheat them, same rules apply when you step into a casino house wins every thing is in there favour the roullete machines fruit machines blackjack.
The way i look at it they dont like if you win there money hbecause your not suppose to.
Thats why i give respect to people who rip off casinos card counters ect.
And im going to do the same to online poker, im already doing it in at small level which will makes me a living already as well as having a job i play semi pro football and paid for that so i live a good fun life. But im gonna step it up soon and do somr great scam.
Have you guys ever heard of the guy called justin bonomo hes a pro now, look up hes story how he started off he was cheating on multi accounts and made loads of money.
REgards Evil :twisted: thoutz


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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged to keep players happy
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:55 pm 
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UMMM level one dont tell me, access to undetected bots and other kinds of bulshit wow im excited let me in there please i beg. Nothing in there would interest me, why because from what ive heard from all of you, you do not come across as being that intelligent.
As well as that if your as smart as you muppets say you are put me on a poker table with all of your bots and i bet i will clean them out.
Find a site that plays 6 player torneys for fun, ill go on there and you put 5 of your bots on there and away we go. So you up for the challange??


Ive been nice and had paitence but all i get is negitive crap from you senior members. I bet if would take a year to get into your level one access and when i got in there i bet i would say, what a waste of time.


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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged to keep players happy
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:42 pm 
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newbee wrote:
Evil guy is a bit to rude I agree, but don't blame him for fraudulent when you bot yourself, especially the way you more experienced guys bot comes very close to fraudulent activitie's, I don't care, but don't blame someone else for what you do your self.

If you work so hard on anti-detection and that kind of things your not much better yourself, same when you bot on multiple accounts on friends/family names, it stays fraudulent as hell, Indiana no hard feelings but I read that you were banned before from a pokersite, well thats because you bot, and botting is illegal = fraudulent.

Whats a chargeback?

Botting is niether fraudulent or illegal. It's not wanted on most sites but nothing more than that.

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UMMM level one dont tell me, access to undetected bots and other kinds of bulshit wow im excited let me in there please i beg. Nothing in there would interest me, why because from what ive heard from all of you, you do not come across as being that intelligent.

Evilthoutz (earlier) wrote:
I have certain information about poker sites that i will disclose later on when i am mayme level one.
And by the way dont buy the sharkscope hud its useless its just an example i was showing

:roll:

Evilhoutz, don't you get it, the only thing you need to shut us up is to show any kind of evidence of any kind of rigged site.


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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged to keep players happy
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:12 pm 
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No, that ain't the solution, cause then the evidence is not enough again, I know exactly how that go's, it will only work when a group works together and gathering the evidence together so it's more trustworthy, but no one wants to do all the work browsing the 20 million handhistory's of Indiana if he would approve it. I am not going to do the work either, I have more things to do, and that's the whole issue for everyone and that's why the proof will never come.


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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged to keep players happy
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:12 pm 
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Newbee, you can be banned for everything that violates the ToS/T&C of a casino. Botting is one such thing, using any 3rd party software is another such thing, saying something bad about a casino in a forum is another such thing (it is a ToS violation). On some sites even playing proffesionally (and not for entertainment) is violation of the rules.

There are things that are more or less in the norms, but obviously everyone decide for himself where to draw the line playing wiht rules that are purely business and market driven.

I respect rules that are meaningful (i.e. I won't do things that will give me advantage over the casino, or the other players from game theory standpoint), I won't commit crimes, and I won't defraud the casino or other players for money. To the rest I won't necessarily oblidge.

Chargebacks, on the other hand, is defrauding the casino (or random people) for money, it is direct stealing (because you chipdump money that are not yours, which you later withdraw via other accounts). So it's basically criminal activity in the net, and it's AFAIK the top #3 crimes on the net.

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 Post subject: Poker Cheats
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:25 pm 
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The biggest "cheater" share experience:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MsWi97symIM

"One company was shutdown because it's bots were able to see evryones else cards"

Haha, oh, gosh. I guess this is the thing for evilthoutz, Adrian20XX, what will you say now??

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 Post subject: Re: Poker Cheats
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:33 pm 
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I realy hate when people who don't know anything about poker talks about "poker wizards" who can do anything imaginable.

The only ones getting cheated here is the ones buying his book...


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 Post subject: Re: Poker Cheats
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:51 pm 
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Lol well what can i say lol, i tell you what lads its not about selling the book, the guys right these days everything is a cheat. Evil :twisted: thoutz


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 Post subject: Re: Poker Cheats
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:33 pm 
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OK, Evilthoutz.

I repost our latest PM conversation, and I'm sorry to say it, but your intellectual level is simply below the one which I want the people on this forum to have.

Now, after a short summit of the pokerai ninjas we decided the following: If you once again, in any post in any forum mention the word cheat or hack or forms of it, I'll ban you.

Evilthoutz wrote:
Yes i am, and im sorry to say i would rather not disclose my date of birth, why you ask?? it seems from your last comment you dont like hackers of fraudsters, i dont do fraud, and from your last comment and ive never had chargebacks, they dident close down my account i did, i just dont use it, they do find out after a while but the close it, but then when im ready i make a new one.
To be honest indi i think your the politest ive met on here yet but i think im gonna move to another forum im getting fed up with the negitve attitude. i mean whats the point of having this site if you wont give access to level one. whats so top secret about it as you say. Regards Evilthoutz

Indiana wrote:
Feel free to move to any forum of course. I won't say there is anything so much to help you in lev1. You can't digest even simpler stuff. FTP is not rigged, and you'll eventually see it. Many people have experienced this effect (that if you open a new account, or if you haven't played long time and come back) you run better. It's all illusion, it's that simple.

Evilthoutz wrote:
Indi may i ask a question are you up money on online poker.

Indiana wrote:
Yes, a lot - despite that it's a hobby for me. It is a competitive environment. Many of the botters, as you observed, lose money, but in botting is like in poker, you have 10 losers losing money for each 1 winner.

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No disrespect indi you sound like you work for these poker sites, thats why this site is here. Im not stupid you understand, if your up loads of money then send me your user name for online poker and ill check it on sharkscope. I mean as you say botting ant cheating and all, so youll have no problem giving me proof.

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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:59 am 
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Ha ha yes funny, you know you still dident answer my question.
Let me see your poker name so i can check how much money you are up so i can see if your a winner or not. You seem to be a shy to this question umm ??


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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:03 am 
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Whytf would I need to prove to you how much money I'm up?
Obviously I won't disclose my casino nicknames to anyone, especially to a noname zoo boy.

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 Post subject: Re: Poker Cheats
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:19 pm 
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indiana wrote:
The biggest "cheater" share experience:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MsWi97symIM

"One company was shutdown because it's bots were able to see evryones else cards"

Haha, oh, gosh. I guess this is the thing for evilthoutz, Adrian20XX, what will you say now??

I don't believe you didn't guesed my answer, it's so predictable.
It one company was shutdown because it's bots were able to see everyones else cards, what company was? Shouldn't we know by now? Shouldn't it got a thread in 2+2 about this?
Words are just words, they mean absolutely nothing unless they are backed up by demostrable facts.
So, I don't believe that, and I don't believe in ETs either
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKPeMuKQ9yE

(I fixed the link now)


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 Post subject: Re: Top secret: Online poker is rigged
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 Post subject: Evilthoutz banned
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:19 am 
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Indiana is this all you do all day is live in this sad forum why dont you get a life and a job perhaps,
and maybe thinking about spending the rest of your boring life doing something intersting, instead of playing with your little botties.

Im a semi pro football player.
I also work in a hospital, with many other intersts and hobbys As well as being up 78 thousand dollers at online poker, not including my live poker winnings. And heres your sad fucking ass living in this dumb forum trying to scam poker sites with that unfair advantage, that you say is legal.
Ummm yes of course bots are legal it say that in the site rules.
You really are one spasticated twat arnt you.

Well thats me done with this queer little site this will be my last time on here and my last words as i am very busy doing other intersting things unlike some people.

Regards Evilthoutz :twisted:

OH dear i almost forgot to say the words fraud and cheat, OH please dont ban me i need this site its the only thing i have LOL Byeeeeeeeeee :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: Evilthoutz banned
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:35 am 
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He posted that in about 20 threads, so I banned him.

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